tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post5291699296292905712..comments2024-03-27T16:08:30.313-05:00Comments on The Great Change: This Changes Nothing — Naomi Klein's Climate PrescriptionAlbert Bateshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17627996921976501534noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post-33261020845757465992019-04-29T21:56:34.785-05:002019-04-29T21:56:34.785-05:00My two cents: Cynicism is systemically taught in a...My two cents: Cynicism is systemically taught in a corporately orchestrated world of ingenious and profuse ads and psychologically powerful messages leading to a meme of we can't. <br />Greed is what is killing the world and those who have this disease will not fall in love with the world, they are too in love with money to care about the world and their behavior mimics cancer in the human body. However, the masses, just 15% according to Malcolm Gladwell can fall in love and are already and when we do, we must believe that what is thought as impossible in terms of changing the global economic beast that encourages sociopathic/psychopathic levels of greed CAN be changed in order to stop the destruction. this systems is what drives us to grow the economy = (destroy biodiversity/ecosytems) at a rate that is not sustainable and encourages people to do so in ways that are both immoral, socially vile and destructive to the life systems of the planet. <br /><br />Naomi Klein may not have described the precise ways that we must move from Global Capitalism to a better system, but if we just look to some of the more socially just capitalist societies like the Scandinavian countries and learn/model some indigenous and spiritual relationship to this place called earth, a new global model will appear. The fact that countries have created the rights of nature http://therightsofnature.org/executive-committee/, https://www.openglobalrights.org/the-rights-of-nature-gaining-ground/ in their constitutions is a huge step toward a global shift. <br /><br />I think the voice of commerce and the belief that everything would crumble without it, is part of a corporate meme designed to get people to rarely try and certainly not believe that it would be possible to change from the destructive materialist society we have to something more sustainable, where the "market" isn't the center of everything, <br />but rather the earth and human well being is. Einstein's quote "Imagination is more important that knowledge" alludes to the fact that without the capacity to imagine what we want to happen, which includes imagining that it is possible to have, we are incapable of breaking free of the exploitation that impacts all life on our planet to change our current global paradigm. Stifle your cynicism and BELIEVE, IMAGINE, ACT our lives and the lives of all the beauty we so love on planet depends on it. :) <br />Gaiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11061504946554962461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post-22942232749923469932014-11-03T13:24:32.193-06:002014-11-03T13:24:32.193-06:00I agree Albert. While I was also lured by the titl...I agree Albert. While I was also lured by the title and the mention of Capitalism to do so I didn't pick up Naomi's book partly because I was sure it would be a vast list of the problems with little on solution and that view was vindicated when I saw her on the Colbert Report. She was asked what the solution was and she said we just need to take the money away from the wealthy, not a very comprehensive answer. Recognizing and demonstrating the genius of certain indigenous cultures is what needs to happen, I think. Falling in love with the world.<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14146510259857273001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post-43733150743195165422014-10-12T09:32:44.536-05:002014-10-12T09:32:44.536-05:00Josiah, the repeating pattern of destruction you m...Josiah, the repeating pattern of destruction you mention is the point made by Eliz. Kolbert, and the remedy you suggest (and I agree with) is the idea promoted by Naomi Klein, ie: we can, if sufficiently scared, turn this around and live better than before - crisis/opportunity. This was the theme of my 2006 Survival Guide also. It may be hopelessly naive.<br />Albert Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627996921976501534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post-19493840057098659972014-10-11T16:19:48.321-05:002014-10-11T16:19:48.321-05:00Wow Albert, acute and bold words were shared here....Wow Albert, acute and bold words were shared here. Thank you. <br />The ending paragraphs leave me feeling that you have little hope. I too grapple with this at times. <br />The idea of a civilization that is in balance with it's surroundings - I would like to take this opportunity to discuss that with you a little bit. I would venture to say that the culture which likely killed off the megafauna, is the same that was found to be in complete balance with it's surroundings - just at a different place in their timeline. And I would go further to suggest that if the idealized "culture in perfect harmony with it's surroundings" was placed into a new environment, the pattern may repeat itself again - apparent abundance is enjoyed enthusiastically until a point at which it's demise is at odds with a culture's newly engrained reliance. <br />So here we are, globally at the end of wild, the wilderness left for us to plunder is not enough for itself to rebound - the outcome of continuing our plunder is to continue permanent loss of species and the dynamic ecosystems that provide us with abundance. Yet we continue - entrenched in our ways, we have indebted ourselves to continue. <br />Here is one place that I find hope - Humans can evolve our philosophies in a generation or two and we now have the ability to share our thoughts and collective data in real-time via the internet. I am not suggesting that the internet is our savior, we are our only savior, but never before have we been able to immediately trade notes across the such vast distances and between languages. The world is now a small island and we can talk to the other side any time of the day. We can become Turtle Island if we so decide. I am really hoping that we get this ship aimed in a new direction as quick as fricken possible. We are already facing some pain, but the longer we delay, the more painful a future for us youngins and our offspring. <br />The actual mechanics of the transition are not the problem, there is already sufficient tools at our dispense and more every day, the solution lies in cultural evolution. And you Albert, have just helped nudge that one little bit forward. Thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570026166502393589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post-64257389397218755882014-10-09T09:55:18.370-05:002014-10-09T09:55:18.370-05:00Thank you for the insightful review. Although I ha...Thank you for the insightful review. Although I haven't read Klein's book,the general impression I've gotten from other sources is in complete agreement with what you've said.<br /><br />It looks completely hopeless, and prayer is indicated, from my POV.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02757250545116691670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1575603731696062553.post-14645330747392445032014-10-05T16:45:24.286-05:002014-10-05T16:45:24.286-05:00There are plenty of sustainable tribal cultures ar...There are plenty of sustainable tribal cultures around the world, although I doubt the their populations would add up to more than a few million people at most. They will preserve the human species, that is if the rest of us don't totally wreck the climate. <br /><br />Here's hoping for a quick collapse of the capitalist market economy in the near future. My speculation is that when it comes, it will not have been due to any protest or reform movement, but rather lack of cheap energy and financial panic. Certainly no bucolic agrarian utopia paired with "walkable cities" powered by solar panels will take its place.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01251330546889158364noreply@blogger.com